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### Latex Editors

Amit Kumar Saha [amitsaha.in at gmail.com]

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:22:43 +0530

Hey all,

Suggest me a good, complete LATEX system - editors, typesetting system - preferably for Ubuntu (if thats important).

Cheers,

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Mahesh Aravind [ra_mahesh at yahoo.com]

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:26:08 -0700 (PDT)

Amit,

--- Amit Kumar Saha <amitsaha.in@gmail.com> wrote:

> Suggest me a good, complete LATEX system - editors, typesetting system
> - preferably for Ubuntu (if thats important).
>

If you ask me, GNU Emacs + AUCTeX == TeX editing system ultimatum!!!

Try it, AucTeX has got EVERYTHING you need for writing TeX! Comes with a catch, though -- you need to be proficient in Emacs.

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Mahesh Aravind
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Kapil Hari Paranjape [kapil at imsc.res.in]

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:01:26 +0530

Hello,

By mistake I didn't forward this to TAG:

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Amit Kumar Saha wrote:

> Suggest me a good, complete LATEX system - editors, typesetting system
> - preferably for Ubuntu (if thats important).

A reasonably complete system would involve something like:

apt-get install texlive-latex-recommended texlive-doc-en \
preview-latex latex-beamer
This will get you enough tools to start creating mathematical documents using emacs with "preview" of the formulae that you type. You can use latex-beamer to create talks/presentations. This also pulls in "pgf" which you can use to add graphics/pictures/plots to your text. Both "latex-beamer" and "pgf" come with excellent documentation as well. I normally use "pdflatex" rather than "latex" for all my documents since it is much easier to distribute/print PDF files (pdftex is part of texlive).

Some people prefer "lyx" to "preview-latex" but I find it difficult to use since its "internal" format is not LaTeX. Converting from its internal format to LaTeX and back is not idempotent which is a source of additional headaches when you have other people editing your document. (It is at least two years since I last tried LyX).

If you want to convert to HTML or other hypertext formats you probably want:

apt-get install tex4ht hevea hevea-doc
Regards,

Kapil. --

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Amit Kumar Saha [amitsaha.in at gmail.com]

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:55:38 +0530

Hi Kapil,

On 7/12/07, Kapil Hari Paranjape <kapil@imsc.res.in> wrote:

> A reasonably complete system would involve something like:
>
>         apt-get install texlive-latex-recommended texlive-doc-en \
>                 preview-latex latex-beamer
>
> This will get you enough tools to start creating mathematical

Thanks. I shall try this out.

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Amit Kumar Saha

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René Pfeiffer [lynx at luchs.at]

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:33:56 +0200

On Jul 12, 2007 at 0426 -0700, Mahesh Aravind appeared and said:

> --- Amit Kumar Saha <amitsaha.in@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Suggest me a good, complete LATEX system - editors, typesetting system
> > - preferably for Ubuntu (if thats important).
> If you ask me, GNU Emacs + AUCTeX =3D=3D TeX editing system ultimatum!!!
> Try it, AucTeX has got EVERYTHING you need for writing TeX! Comes with a catch,
> though -- you need to be proficient in Emacs.

And if you don't like to do that, you might want to try "aptitude install vim-latexsuite" - but you need to be proficient in using vim. ;)

SCNR, René.

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Amit Kumar Saha [amitsaha.in at gmail.com]

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:08:17 +0530

Hi Mahesh,

On 7/12/07, Mahesh Aravind <ra_mahesh@yahoo.com> wrote:

> If you ask me, GNU Emacs + AUCTeX == TeX editing system ultimatum!!!
>
> Try it, AucTeX has got EVERYTHING you need for writing TeX! Comes with a catch,
> though -- you need to be proficient in Emacs.

I am no Emacs expert Always wanted to be one, but was too lazy and always found more important things to do. So that makes me different from the typical *ix geek who swears by emacs. Anyways Thanks for the suggestion, Kapil has suggested me a easier option which I plan to try.

Thanks

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Amit Kumar Saha

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Amit Kumar Saha [amitsaha.in at gmail.com]

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:10:19 +0530

On 7/12/07, René Pfeiffer <lynx@luchs.at> wrote:

> And if you don't like to do that, you might want to try "aptitude
> install vim-latexsuite" - but you need to be proficient in using vim. ;)

I keep that as the second option after Kapil's easier solution

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Amit Kumar Saha

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Kapil Hari Paranjape [kapil at imsc.res.in]

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:13:43 +0530

Hello,

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, René Pfeiffer wrote:

> On Jul 12, 2007 at 0426 -0700, Mahesh Aravind appeared and said:
> > --- Amit Kumar Saha <amitsaha.in@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Suggest me a good, complete LATEX system - editors, typesetting system
> > > - preferably for Ubuntu (if thats important).
> > >
> >
> > If you ask me, GNU Emacs + AUCTeX == TeX editing system ultimatum!!!
> >
> > Try it, AucTeX has got EVERYTHING you need for writing TeX! Comes with a catch,
> > though -- you need to be proficient in Emacs.
>
> And if you don't like to do that, you might want to try "aptitude
> install vim-latexsuite" - but you need to be proficient in using vim. ;)

Actually, most of my colleagues here complained about "vim-latexsuite" since they felt that "doing it all within vim" was like the "emacs" philosophy rather than the "vi" philosphy.

People were happy enough with vim's standard syntax highlighting for TeX. They use the "e" exit from TeX/LaTeX to invoke the vim editor when they run into an error.

I also forgot to say that "preview-latex" pulls in "auctex". Another useful emacs package when you write long documents which are split into many files is "reftex".

Regards,

Kapil.

P.S. Since I don't seem to need previews anymore, I'm back to using "vi" (elvis actually) for editing TeX.

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Amit Kumar Saha [amitsaha.in at gmail.com]

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:17:38 +0530

Kapil,

I plan to create my first Latex document after I have set up the system. So any pointers to good resources?

Thanks

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Amit Kumar Saha

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René Pfeiffer [lynx at luchs.at]

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:08:23 +0200

On Jul 12, 2007 at 1713 +0530, Kapil Hari Paranjape appeared and said:

> Hello,
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, René Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On Jul 12, 2007 at 0426 -0700, Mahesh Aravind appeared and said:
> > > --- Amit Kumar Saha <amitsaha.in@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Suggest me a good, complete LATEX system - editors, typesetting system
> > > > - preferably for Ubuntu (if thats important).
> > > If you ask me, GNU Emacs + AUCTeX =3D=3D TeX editing system ultimatum!!!
> > > Try it, AucTeX has got EVERYTHING you need for writing TeX! Comes with a catch,
> > > though -- you need to be proficient in Emacs.
> > And if you don't like to do that, you might want to try "aptitude
> > install vim-latexsuite" - but you need to be proficient in using vim. ;)
> Actually, most of my colleagues here complained about
> "vim-latexsuite" since they felt that "doing it all within vim"
> was like the "emacs" philosophy rather than the "vi" philosphy.

I have to agree with you. I am using only vim for LaTeX editing, xpdf or ghostview for previews (if I need them) and dia (or inkscape) for diagrams. The vim-latexsuite has some drawbacks when it comes to to commands. I regularly hit predefined command sequences when typing (for example I am used to type \section{} first and then filling in the text, but {} is interpreted as a command). Of course I can redefine the commands, but then again I can stick to vim.

Best wishes, René.

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Mahesh Aravind [ra_mahesh at yahoo.com]

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:42:14 -0700 (PDT)

Amit,

--- Amit Kumar Saha <amitsaha.in@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am no Emacs expert  Always wanted to be one, but was too lazy and
> always found more important things to do. So that makes me different
> from the typical  *ix geek who swears by emacs. Anyways Thanks for
> the suggestion, Kapil has suggested me a easier option which I plan to
> try.

Sure. No wonder people say GNU/Linux is all about choice.

But do check out rubber -- http://www.sourceforge.net/rubber

Makes LaTeX compiling a breeze -- even inside vi, I guess! ;)

--
Mahesh Aravind
First they ignore you.  Then they laugh at you.  Then they fight you.
Then you win!                -- Mahatma Gandhi (on GNU/Linux)
========================================================================
International		 |   Install Linux.   |	 Catch me at:
GNU/Linux user #371671	 |  Lead a GNU Life!  |	 maravind.blogspot.com
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Martin J Hooper [martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk]

Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:54:05 +0100

Mahesh Aravind wrote:

> Amit,
>
> --- Amit Kumar Saha <amitsaha.in@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am no Emacs expert  Always wanted to be one, but was too lazy and
>> always found more important things to do. So that makes me different
>> from the typical  *ix geek who swears by emacs. Anyways Thanks for
>> the suggestion, Kapil has suggested me a easier option which I plan to
>> try.
>
> Sure. No wonder people say GNU/Linux is all about choice.
>
> But do check out rubber -- http://www.sourceforge.net/rubber
>

Here is the right address: http://sourceforge.net/projects/rubber/

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Francis Daly [francis at daoine.org]

Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:26:37 +0100

On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 08:54:05AM +0100, Martin J Hooper wrote:

> Mahesh Aravind wrote:
> > But do check out rubber -- http://www.sourceforge.net/rubber
>
> Here is the right address: http://sourceforge.net/projects/rubber/

Although there's more up-to-date information if you go to (the page redirected from) http://rubber.sourceforge.net/

Consistent urls. There's nothing like 'em...

f

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