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From Nick Urbanik
Answered By: Thomas Adam, Neil Youngman, Kapil Hari Paranjape
I am backing up my machine at work with Mondoarchive http://www.mondorescue.org A great program! I ran the program at work, so the terminal interface to the program is there, not here. My friend put in a new DVD into the DVD writer, and now, after everyone has gone home, I am looking at the log /var/log/mondo-archive.log (via ssh), which says:
I am about to burn DVD #11 of the backup set. Please insert DVD and
My question: How can I send the "\r" to the remote application?
[Neil] I don't think you can, unless you've arranged a suitable mechanism in advance.
I can determine the process ID, I have full administrative control of the machine, but I realise that I don't know how to do this simple task! It seems like I should, and would be most interested if any of you Answer Gang people could offer any suggestions.
[Neil] If you could it would be a security hole. I believe it might have been possible in older versions of X11 with the security turned off. If you find it is possible then you really need to do something about it.
If you want to be able to do this remotely then you can run the program in something like VNC or GNU screens, that will allow to detach from an X11 display or terminal session and reattach from somewhere else. If it wasn't started it in such an environment it's way to late to do anything about it now.
[Thomas] Use 'expect'. It is why it was written. As an example:
#!/usr/bin/expect -f # Created by Thomas Adam # First startup the application in question spawn <program_name> $arguments # When we reach this prompt.... expect -re "Please insert DVD and press Enter" # Send a carriage return send "\r" # Allow control of the program back to the user interact
Clearly you will have to play about with it, but just save the file, chmod +x it, change the values in it. The only thing I am concerned about is the "inteact" statement, as it might not be needed. I am unfamiliar with the application, so you'll have to tinker with it.
You will need to install 'expect'.
Yes, I have used expect briefly, but I do not understand how to apply it in this case. The application is already running, and I don't know how to send the keystroke to it.
If I restarted it, then ran it over the ssh session, then, well, I would be able to press enter here easily, but would then face the same problem at work; being unable to send a keypress to the application to the console from which it is being controlled.
[Thomas] Tough. It cannot be done -- you need a program to talk to it. I am sure there is a way you can resume from a certain position... My best advice is to stop it, and use expect.
[Kapil] In case the remote application is running in an X-window, you could
- install "rfb" or "x11vnc" on the remote machine.
- start x11vnc on the remote machine.
- install a vnc viewer on the local machine.
- start the vnc viewer on the local machine.
- make the appropriate changes to the remote application.
This is admittedly a very brief summary. You must also insert the step (a+b)/2 which consists of reading the documentation for vnc.
If you do not have the application running in an X-window but on the console then there is also a vnc server for the console somewhere...(mumbles and runs "apt-cache search vnc")...ah, there it is
Package: linuxvnc Description: A VNC server to monitor a tty With linuxvnc you can export your currently running text sessions to any VNC client. So it can be useful, if you want to move to another computer without having to log out and if you've forgotten to attach a 'screen' session to it, or to help a distant colleague to solve a problem.
If fd0 has been closed then you are truly without any option except kill <proc-number>. You are also stuck with an application that is making the mistake of waiting for a read without having an open input source!
That looks like the solution! I thought it may be very difficult to do this without starting modoarchive in a screen session. I will investigate how to use this. Thank you.